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April 13, 2026 at 3:24 pm #33166
From a site in NW Norfolk, in heathland. The pebbles here are an iron rich sandstone (carstone) and in places these can form small outcrops. These have some interesting species on (for East Anglia), including Trapelia glebulosa, Trapelia obtegens, Porpidia crustulata, Leimonis erratica and Porpidia soredizodes. This specimen I couldn’t place – black discs with no apparent thallus – convex with a thalline margin, deep green epithecium and paler green hymenium, no obvious colour in the hypothecium, 3-septate spores around 15um long. Haugania oederi seems to fit microscopically, but definitely doesn’t look like it. Any suggestions please. April 17, 2026 at 9:35 am #46929Rob I was hoping someone more knowledgeable on rock would reply, but looking at the pictures and reading descriptions it looks like poorly developed
Haugania oederito me, presumably there because the sandstone is iron rich. An interesting addition to the lowland heathland pebble assemblage. Neil
April 21, 2026 at 1:18 pm #46930Scoliciosporum intrusum appears to tick most of the boxes, though it would be a big range extension… Best wishes
Paul
April 27, 2026 at 4:10 pm #46931Hi Rob (& Neil and Paul): Apologies for my late response. I’m blocked from posting to this forum from my home network so have to wait until I go into the herbarium.
Haugania oederiand S. intrusumare both good suggestions but I don’t think it is either of those – H. oederiwould have gyrose apothecia and a dark hypothecium, and I have only ever seen S. intrusumwith 0–1-septate spores. The apothecial section has the look of a
Micareaand I rather suspect this is M. lignaria. Although that species usually has mutiseptate spores, it can also have 3-septate ones. I have collected such a specimen in Scotland and it had me fooled as well! An alternative, left-field, suggestion would be a lichenicolous
Arthoniain the hymenium of Lecidella stigmatea. It doesn’t look like A. intexta, but I’m sure there are others. Cheers – Alan
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