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    Anonymous

      I have a problem with a species growing in a heathland at the top of a very exposed sea cliff. It had been provisionally identified as Trapeliopsis granulosa, but I don’t think it’s that species. There are no orange colorations, and it’s probably not Trapeliopsis pseudogranulosa. Furthermore, it might not be a Trapeliopsis… Do you have any ideas?

      Thanks in advance.

      Alain

      #46625
      Neil Sanderson
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        #46626
        Neil Sanderson
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          Alain

          Yes Pd+ red is wrong for any C+ red Trapeliopsis and it looks odd for Trapeliopsis granulosa. The spot tests match Micarea leprosula, although that is not usually that pale, but looks a better match Trapeliopsis granulosa possibly?

          Neil

          #46627

          The C+ orange reaction indicates xanthones and suggests Lecidella of Lecanora s. lat., but the PD+ red (?fumarprotocetraric acid) is unusual and rules out most possibilities. Could it be a really weird L. meiococca, which reportedly sometimes grows on ‘decaying Armeria tufts’ and can have a variable chemistry.

          #46628
          Anonymous

            Sorry, I made a mistake: this species is C+ orange, KC+ red-orange, K+/- yellow, P-. Due to the presence of a jelly, I think it is a maritime form of Trapeliopsis pseudogranulosa rather than Trapeliopsis granulosa?

            Your opinion?

            Alain

            Trapeliopsis_granulosa_Cf Cap_de_la_Chevre_S12.jpg

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            #46629
            Anonymous

              As Alan indicates, the orange C+ reaction (xanthones) does not allow us to consider a Trapeliopsis. I therefore think that it is a terricolous/saxicolous form of Lecanora alboflavida (to be described).

              Alain

              #46630
              Neil Sanderson
              Senior Moderator

                Yes looks a good match for Lecanora alboflavida, this is probbaly locally widespread but overlooked on rock some oceanic areas in Britain, but I have never seen it terricolous. A conformation would be very strong UV+ orange fluorescence from the thallus.

                Neil

                #46631
                Anonymous

                  Many thanks Neil and Alan, orange fluorescence OK for Lecanora alboflavida maritime soil form.

                  Alain

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