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Possible resupinate such as Peniophora sp

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  • January 14, 2019 at 4:51 pm #31181
    Bob Hazell

      These photographs were taken at Draycote Water near Rugby, Warwickshire earlier today. I was photographing what I assume is Daedaleopsis confragosa on a fallen branch – possibly Willow. In close proximity I noticed what appears to be the early stages of fungal growth amongst lichen on the branch. I am completely stabbing in the dark but wondered if this was a resupinate such as Peniophora quercina.

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      January 15, 2019 at 2:47 pm #41694
      Chris Yeates

        The bottom one – although one cannot see enough of the underside to be certain – looks to me like Daedalea quercina. As for the smaller brackets – very young Chondrostereum purpureum?

        regards

        Chris

        January 15, 2019 at 5:38 pm #41695
        Bob Hazell

          Hello Chris,

          Thanks for your response and for correcting me regarding the Daedalea quercina – I certainly didn’t give the pores enough attention! I will keep an eye on the other fungus and watch it develop. If Chondrostereum purpureum starts to look unlikely no doubt I’ll be back in touch seeking more help. Thanks again.

          Regards,

          Bob

          January 15, 2019 at 7:31 pm #41696
          eltio
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            Am I missing something? I can’t see any other bracket fungi, only what looks like a Peltigera species.

            January 16, 2019 at 8:01 am #41697
            Chris Johnson

              I agree with eltio, the first three are Peltigera where the thallus has curled showing the rhizines.

              Chris

              January 16, 2019 at 10:45 am #41698
              Bob Hazell

                Hello Chris & Eltio,

                Thanks for your further thoughts. A Peltigera sp certainly does appear to be the correct identification and given the surrounding lichen something that I ought to have recognised in the field.

                Thank you for your help.

                Regards,

                Bob

                January 16, 2019 at 3:32 pm #41699
                Chris Yeates

                  I’m not at all convinced by the Peltigera theory. The habitat seems unlikely and those are totally unlike any rhizines I have ever seen. Those are hairs (in the mycological sense), far too thin and separated to be rhizines – this is what I would expect for the latter: https://www.flickr.com/photos/treebeard/24679852027” class=”bbcode_url”>https://www.flickr.com/photos/treebeard/24679852027

                  It would be useful to examine a bit . . .

                  Chris Y

                  January 16, 2019 at 4:22 pm #41700
                  Bob Hazell

                    Hi Chris,

                    I took a further photograph yesterday monitoring the progress of growth. I’m not sure it shows anything new but it is a larger photo allowing “closer” examination. I’m not sure that I have sufficient knowledge to gain much from further examination other than if there is any simple observation that may be helpful.

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                    Regards,

                    Bob

                    January 16, 2019 at 4:38 pm #41701
                    Chris Yeates

                      Thanks for going to that trouble, Bob. I’m happy that it is probably isn’t my first suggestion, and am now seriously wondering about Auricularia mesenterica, young of course. If it is it should look more typical in a month or so . . . But it doesn’t say Peltigera to me at all.

                      January 16, 2019 at 4:47 pm #41702
                      Bob Hazell

                        Thanks Chris – I’ll continue to monitor its development.

                        Bob

                        January 16, 2019 at 5:01 pm #41703
                        mollisia

                          Hello,

                          I’d stick to dried out Chondrostereum purpureum.

                          For Auricularia mesenterica the fruitbodies are too thin i my opinion, and usually they grow larger when they are that old that they make “caps” and they are most often on naked wood rather than on lichen colonized bark.

                          best regards,

                          Andreas

                          January 16, 2019 at 5:09 pm #41704
                          Bob Hazell

                            Hello Andreas,

                            Thanks for your thoughts. As I said to Chris I’ll continue to monitor the fungus. If there are any significant changes I’ll post further photographs.

                            Regards,

                            Bob

                            January 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm #41705
                            Chris Yeates

                              I’m happy to go with Andreas’ opinion – should have had more confidence in my initial thoughts . . .

                              January 17, 2019 at 11:05 am #41706
                              Chris Johnson

                                Chris Yeates wrote:


                                I’m not at all convinced by the Peltigera theory. The habitat seems unlikely and those are totally unlike any rhizines I have ever seen. Those are hairs (in the mycological sense), far too thin and separated to be rhizines – this is what I would expect for the latter: https://www.flickr.com/photos/treebeard/24679852027” class=”bbcode_url”>https://www.flickr.com/photos/treebeard/24679852027

                                It would be useful to examine a bit . . .

                                Chris Y

                                Ok, fooled by that one. 😳

                                Chris

                                January 26, 2019 at 10:46 am #41707
                                Bob Hazell

                                  By way of feedback to everyone that was kind enough to reply here is a further image of the fungus after the recent snow and frosts. It clearly, as suggested, is Chondrostereum purpureum. I believe this particular fungus can be “rejuvenated” by frosts although I can’t actually find any reference to that in a recent search.

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