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    Growing on Lewisian gneiss near the coast.

    Individual apothecia up to 1.3mm in diameter but many have coalesced.

    Paraphyses anastomosing.

    Spores simple: 12.8-19.4 x 7.6-9.8 µm

    Second image in water.

    Third image in KOH.

    Last image in Melzer’s.

    The nearest I can come up with is Porpidia contraponenda but with others similar, other opinions would be appreciated.

    Thank, Chris

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    Paul Cannon
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      If I had to give a name (any name!) on pain of death I would have plumped for P. cinereoatra as the apothecia look slightly pruinose from the picture, but this and contraponenda can only be told apart reliably by TLC. Porpidia is a really difficult genus, sometimes it’s better to pretend you haven’t seen them…

      Paul

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      Paul Cannon wrote:


      … Porpidia is a really difficult genus, sometimes it’s better to pretend you haven’t seen them…

      Paul

      Ha, I can certainly empathise with that view having spent several hours on it.

      The apothecia are slightly pruinose. I’ll run with that with a big question mark and keep it for reference.

      Thank you again, Chris

      #41872
      Neil Sanderson
      Senior Moderator

        Chris

        The new K/UV test would help as P. cinereoatra has confluentic acid and P. contraponenda does not. Just put some K on the thallus and shine a UV lamp at it. P. cinereoatra will produce a bright mauve fluorescence. You can test this on Enterographa zonata (Opegrapha zonata)

        Neil

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        Neil

        Great tip, that worked perfectly (even without the super-powerful Convoy UV light ;) ).

        Porpidia cinereoatra it is.

        Thanks, Chris

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