Amandinea punctata
Apothecia small (all >1 mm and some >0.5 mm), lecanorine and dispersed. Discs ranging from reddish brown to pale brown-grey, but both apothecium types looking identical in section. Thallus apparent only around some apothecia, and then only as small convex swellings. Prothallus apparently black, but not much of it. Hymenium short at ~60 µm. Spores colourless, aseptate, right for Myriolecis
No reactions so far as I can tell, apart from a faint UV+ dull orange (not at all like the distinct bright orange of M. fugiensM. andrewii
LGBI3 is leading me to M. salinaM. salina
The lichen also seems to agree with the description of Polyozosia salina
The UV+ reaction stands out as potential counter-evidence to both LGBI3 and ITALIC, however. At the same time, I understand from a bit of digging around that M. salina
Perhaps there’s a clearer identification that I’m just missing? Photos below.
BTW — the map and text in LGBI3 suggests that M. salina has been recorded in East Suffolk before, but there are no such records in the BLS database. Does anyone know if the records have been re-assigned to another species, and if so which one?
Many thanks,
Anthony
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This is mostly a northern species and while it always appears to be maritime it’s not restricted to shingle. The BLS record for Pabbay came from coastal gneiss and I’ve seen it on maritime old red sandstone from Skye (see image). Collections on shingle always look odd, presumably it’s the extremely hard substrate making it difficult for fungal hyphae to penetrate. There doesn’t seem to be any reason not to record this as M. salinaM. dispersa
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The inland Suffolk records appear to be errors (possibly for Lecanora saligna
Best wishes
Paul
Myriolecis dispersa
For comparison, I’ve looked at some M. dispersa
LGBI3 indicates that M. salinaM. dispersaM. salinaM. salinaM. dispersaM. dispersa
And as you say — I wonder how often these things are measured. ITALIC doesn’t give any figure for M. dispersaM. salinaM. dispersa
My M. dispersaM. salinaM. salina
There are other southern records for M. salina
Thanks again and best regards,
Anthony
These are photos from coastal shingle by the Solent:
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Field picture, flint Warren Shore, Hampshire
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Scan of specimen, flint Warren Shore, Hampshire
I have been identifying it from the thallus composed of rounded granules. Your one is so depurperate I can not realy say any thing about it.
Useful looking at the pictures from that day. This one was labelled Trapelia obtegensAmandinea lecideinaTrapelia obtegensRinodina aspersa
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Rinodina aspersaAmandinea lecideina
All the best
Neil
Very helpful in more ways than one! Quite apart from Myriolecis salinaAmandinea punctataA. pelidna (lecideina)
Having looked again at the spores, it seems I do. They appear to have the characteristic ‘girdle’ from median thickening at the septum. Let me know if you disagree.
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And as it happens, yesterday I was looking at a lichen on a siliceous gravestone that I couldn’t place, but which looked inexplicably like Rinodina aspersaTrapelia obtegens
Best regards,
Anthony
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Neil
