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    I’m hoping you can help with the identification of this lichen.

    I’ve spent the morning trawling through Alan Silverside’s site and British Lichens and not been able to find anything similar.

    Found in woodland growing in moss, maybe on moss.

    I know very little about lichens, so any help appreciated.

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    Neil Sanderson
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      Nick

      Not sure I can say much about this, not sure it is a lichen at all, conceivably it is a Peltigera, but it sort of looks more like a non-lichenised fungus. In this case a habitat picture showing the whole organism would have helped.

      If it was a Peltigera, then a picture habitat showing the whole thallus, a close up of the upperside and one of the underside is the minimum (the latter is essential but often not done). Do put up pictures of any queries you have but a variety of angles and degrees of close up will help.

      All the best

      Neil

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      Mark Powell
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        I had the same reaction as Neil. The brown surface with cracks shows some superficial similarity to the upper surface of some Peltigera species but I think this is probably a non-lichenized fungus. I always carry a razor blade in the field and one of the uses for this is to check for any photobiont partner. In most lichens the algae or cyanobacteria can be detected by simple inspection of a cut or scratched surface under a hand lens. If a fresh-looking part of your mystery had been cut and examined with a lens, this would probably have helped settle the matter of whether lichenized or not. If it was a Peltigera there would be a blue-green coloured layer of cyanobacterial partner; if a non-lichenized fungus there would be no green or blue-green layer (except for degraded fungi which might become home to free-living algae).

        Scratching the thallus of a lichen can help indicate which sort of photobiont is present – yellowish green indicates Trentepohlia, fresh green = ‘chlorococcoid’ green alga, blue-green = cyanobacteria.

        These queries are always interesting, even if we can’t give a definite identification.

        Mark

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        Many thanks, Mark and Neil, for your thoughts and suggestions. I’ve been in touch with my county biological records centre, and they will forward a voucher specimen to the British Lichen Society. They are in agreement with you – it is a Peltigera sp. but they are not sure which. I’ll get back to you when I have a more definitive identification. In the meantime, I’ve attached an image of the lichen in situ – and my homework is to find out about “non-lichenized fungus”!

        All the best… Nick

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