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First off, apologies for stupid newbie questions. However, I found this cluster just about to be destroyed by gardener on our caravan site. So saved. I think they’re oyster mushrooms, but I’m unsure as they were growing on ground, not from tree, which doesn’t seem right?. Found Fri 24 Nov on lawn (long and shaggy) in New Romney Kent. Surrounded by maple and ash trees, quite a lot of leaf mould around on ground. White caps when picked, now browning. Convex, though bigger is becoming concave. White stem top going into brown gills. Brown spore. Can anyone help?
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I know very little but I would say NOT oyster mushrooms.
What are they? I don't know and wouldn't hazard a guess.
What makes you thing they are oysters?
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DulwichJohn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:15 pm . . . I found this cluster just about to be destroyed by gardener on our caravan site. So saved. . .
Hmmm! - saved with what purpose in mind! - I hope that you have read the forum rules at the top of the page!

Oyster mushrooms - asymmetrical fan shaped caps with stem off to one side - white to grey-ish spore print.

These mushrooms - symmetrical caps, central stem, pinkish brown spore print (visible on the plastic container).

So, - do you still think they are Oyster mushrooms?
They may well be Hebeloma's - Many of that genus being poisonous, and including one species commonly referred to as "Poison Pies" - for good reason!!!

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Welcome to Uk Fungi. :)
Firstly, well done for taking a spore pint although the mushroom has made its own spore print on the one below! This can be a time saver.

Having brown spores rules out Ostreatus spp plus you would expect no stem or a reduced off-centre stem and it would be growing on wood (as you correctly deduced)

It looks like it has a ring (or remnants of one)
It also looks dry so I would be thinking Agrocybe praecox or thereabouts. If it was sticky or slimy, I'd be considering Stropharia or Hebeloma (as Mike suggests)
Also worth checking smell.
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Hmmm! - saved with what purpose in mind! - I hope that you have read the forum rules at the top of the page!
I have read them… no I’m not planning on eating them, I’ll stick to Sainsbury’s for that. Just intrigued! I’ve grown mushrooms from kits and keen to learn more. The oyster mushroom lead simply came from using the Picture This plant ID app, which is brilliant for most things, but I wouldn’t trust it for mushrooms. It flagged this up as pleurotus ostreatus but that didn’t add up for me because of the location and the flat/convex caps. Could be poison pie. To my uneducated eye they looked like field mushrooms (?) but they don’t seem to have a ring under the gills. Thanks all.
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DulwichJohn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:53 pm
but they don’t seem to have a ring under the gills. Thanks all.
They look like ring remnants to me.
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DulwichJohn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:53 pm . . . I have read them… no I’m not planning on eating them . . .
I will give you the benefit of the doubt!! ;) :D - but I hope you can see where my concerns came from. - Several identical large fruitbodies on what potentially looks like it could be a kitchen worktop, and someone asking whether they are Oyster mushrooms, when in fact they don't look anything like Oysters, and when Oyster mushrooms are a notable edible species.
adampembs wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:16 pmThey look like ring remnants to me.
You may well be right Adam - which would obviously discount Hebeloma.

I hadn't given them much more than a cursory look as they obviously weren't Oysters.
I had seen the stem remnants that you have annotated above, but without closer inspection, I had taken them to be flaking of the actual stem rather than ring remnants.

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I think you’re right and they are ring remnants. So small I didn’t spot.
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Lancashire Lad wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:50 pm
DulwichJohn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:53 pm . . . I have read them… no I’m not planning on eating them . . .
I will give you the benefit of the doubt!! ;) :D - but I hope you can see where my concerns came from. - Several identical large fruitbodies on what potentially looks like it could be a kitchen worktop, and someone asking whether they are Oyster mushrooms, when in fact they don’t look anything like Oysters, and when Oyster mushrooms are a notable edible species.
adampembs wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:16 pmThey look like ring remnants to me.
You may well be right Adam - which would obviously discount Hebeloma.

I hadn’t given them much more than a cursory look as they obviously weren’t Oysters.
I had seen the stem remnants that you have annotated above, but without closer inspection, I had taken them to be flaking of the actual stem rather than ring remnants.

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I completely concur Mike. Don’t worry, they are going nowhere near a frying pan. John
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DulwichJohn wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:30 pm . . .I completely concur Mike. Don’t worry, they are going nowhere near a frying pan. John
Thanks for that response. - Much appreciated, and I hope that you will continue to find much of interest in the fascinating world of fungi!

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