Hebeloma or Hypholoma?

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Hebeloma or Hypholoma?

Post by Ernesto » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:41 am

Is this Hebeloma (probably sinapizans) or, possibly, a washed out Hypholoma fasciculare? Or perhaps something entirely different? Thanks in advance for any insights.
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Re: Hebeloma or Hypholoma?

Post by Chris Yeates » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:41 pm

It's a washed out Hypholoma fasciculare; and Hebeloma now is an even more tricky genus than we thought it before: https://www.summerfieldbooks.com/produc ... ei-vol-14/ that runs in at over 1200 pages - and there's now a supplement (another 470 pages)! Can't do them in the field and you need a good microscope as well . . . . I've just written up the genus for a proposed Yorkshire Mycota and I'm afraid most older records are best viewed as guesswork - informed or uninformed.
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Re: Hebeloma or Hypholoma?

Post by Ernesto » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:21 am

Thanks Chris, that was my sneaking suspicion. Yes, I can see from your link that the plot thickens, considerably, re Hebeloma. Take care.

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Re: Hebeloma or Hypholoma?

Post by adampembs » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:50 am

Chris Yeates wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:41 pm It's a washed out Hypholoma fasciculare; and Hebeloma now is an even more tricky genus than we thought it before: https://www.summerfieldbooks.com/produc ... ei-vol-14/ that runs in at over 1200 pages - and there's now a supplement (another 470 pages)! Can't do them in the field and you need a good microscope as well . . . . I've just written up the genus for a proposed Yorkshire Mycota and I'm afraid most older records are best viewed as guesswork - informed or uninformed.
Yikes. It doesn't get any easier, even with these lovely books. They'd look good on the bookshelf though if the shelf doesn't break. Nope, I couldn't justify spending £150 on this set for a single genus. I'll stick to my Fungi of Temperate Europe. Its my reference for just about everything now.
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