Arthonia hypobela? in the New Forest

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    Neil Sanderson
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      I have been finding some interesting stuff since I started looked at twigs harder in the New Forest and have been meaning to do some posts on the result. This one has just come up and is so surprising that it has prompted me to start with this.

      I have been aware, sort of in the corner of my eye, of very silvery patches of bark with irregularly rounded Arthonia like apothecia. It is uncommon and when I collected it earlier the specimen I took had no spores but did have broadly clavate asci, a granular brown-black K+ greener epithecium and no apothecium margin.

      I found some more recently and this time it had spores, and these were mult-septate and quite large which seemed to instantly rule out any known British Arthoniaceae. The details are:

      Fallen twig in by road in Beech – Oak pasture woodland, Nicholas Corner, Bartley, New Forest

      Thallus marked by a silvery area of bark, not lichenised; apothecia irregularly rounded 0.25-0.50 mmm across, 100 µm high; ascomatal gel I+ red; epithecium brown-black, with granules, somewhat K+ greener; hymenium colourless; hypothecium thin and pale brown; asci broadly clavate, with a large apical dome, and an ocular chamber, up to 50 x 30 µm; spores (4–) 6 – 8 septate more rounded at one end and more tapered at the other, (20–) 30 – 35 (6–) x 9 – 11 µm () = measurements from immature(?) spores.

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      Thallus & apothecia

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      Apothecia cross sections

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      Spores & acsci

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      Ascus in K/I

      This was clearly not in LGBI3, the spores were unlike any British Arthoniaceae, so I ran it through the Arthonioid key in Italic 8 https://italic.units.it/flora/index.php?procedure=ext_key_home&key_id=2731” class=”bbcode_url”>https://italic.units.it/flora/index.php?procedure=ext_key_home&key_id=2731. This came out at Arthonia hypobela https://italic.units.it/index.php?procedure=taxonpage&num=139” class=”bbcode_url”>https://italic.units.it/index.php?procedure=taxonpage&num=139. This was quite a good match except they had narrower spores at 30-38 x 4-5 µm. They noted it as “ a rather poorly known, probably western species growing on acid bark, including that of conifers; the Italian material was collected on Quercus pubescens and Q. suber.”

      The species is more commonly collected in eastern North America and is also described here https://lichenportal.org/portal/taxa/index.php?tid=52439” class=”bbcode_url”>https://lichenportal.org/portal/taxa/index.php?tid=52439. This gives the spore size as 3-8-septate, 21-42 x 3-6 μm. However, the where the details of the scanned specimens below give spore sizes these had spore widths that ranged 11 – 18 µm, which is a disconnect from the description. Some of these had spore drawings and showed spores with big end cells so might actually be Arthonia ilicina. However, two at least have sketches of similar spores to my specimen, so some American collections under the name Arthonia hypobela do match my specimen.

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      One of the specimens

      An issue might be that my specimen was producing smaller spores that appeared to be immature spores, that were a better fit with the descriptions. Anyway it looks like Arthonia hypobela is an OK name until someone does some further work on these. The New Forest taxa seems likely to be closely related to Arthonia hypobela at the least, even if it is not it.

      Neil

      #46980
      Paul Cannon
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        Interesting. It might be referable to Naevia, as it’s not lichenized, I have what might be several species masquerading as N. punctiformis though none like the one you describe. There’s a useful table of characters of non-lichenized “Arthonia” species in Thiyagaraja et al. (2020) https://doi.org/10.1007/s13225-020-00451-9.

        Best wishes

        Paul

        #46981
        Neil Sanderson
        Senior Moderator

          Yes other than the big spores, the apothecia do look similar to those of Naevia, but the ascomatal gel being I+ red would be different from the species that Thiyagaraja et al. (2020) included in Naevia. Nothing with spores as big as my taxa in his table either. I imagine it would need sequencing to place the species. It does seem to match specimens that have been called Arthonia hypobela, but I would not be surprised if it was not that!

          Will look out for more, I think there is a bit of it about in the New Forest, but it is not frequent.

          Neil

          #70577
          Neil Sanderson
          Senior Moderator

            Nice to see the forum is back!

            Over the interregnum I have seen this taxa in a few places in the New Forest on Oak, all on Oak twigs and quite easy to spot from the sliver patches of bark and the irregularly rounded Arthonia like apothecia. Mostly rather scrappy specimens but this is a nice specimen from my home wood

            Arthonia cf hypobela on Oak twig, New Forest

            Arthonia cf hypobela on Oak twig in the New Forest

            Arthonia cf hypobela apothecium squash in K

            Arthonia cf hypobela apothecium squash in K

            The spores were Spores 35 – 38 x 10 – 12 µm 7 – 9 septate.

            Putting this up mainly to explore the new forum, have not yet found a preview button yet so no idea what this looks like

            Neil

             

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