Traponora varians (previously Lecidea exigua)?

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    On a couple of Ash twigs from Killarney NP, Ireland – is this Traponora varians (previously Lecidea exigua)?

    Apothecia becoming convex with a thin thalline margin, the thallus K+ faintly yellow, UV+ orange.

    Spores simple with thick walls, first specimen 7-10 x 4-6 µm, second specimen 8-12.5 x 5-6(-7) µm.

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    #46234
    Neil Sanderson
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      Jenny

      I can not help much but it would be useful to do a K/UV test, to confirm the presence of an xanthone: K/UV(wet)+ greenish yellow and also VU+ yellow when dry xanthones present or K/UV(wet)– but K/UV(dry)+ bright yellow indicates atranorin present.

      Neil

      #46235

      Reaction K/UV Wet.

      #46236

      Thank you both but I think I must have got well and truly side-tracked with this one!

      Specimen below was both K/UV(wet) and K/UV(dry) negative, also K-, C-, KC- and UV-.

      Reverting to my original thought of Lecanora I checked sections in water under polarised light but no crystals in the margins or granules in the epithecium. The asci were 8-spored, spores simple 8-12.5 x 5-6(-7) µm.

      This could fit with Myriolecis (Lecanora) hagenii but that’s a species I’m unfamiliar with?

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      #46237
      Neil Sanderson
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        Jenny

        I did wounder is it was Myriolecis hagenii, the apothecia did remind me of that! So yes could be that.

        Neil

        #46238

        Thanks Neil – the BLS map only shows a couple of squares in the south of Ireland for hagenii, one of which is (or is next to) where this is from.

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