Moss Fungus ...

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Moss Fungus ...

Post by Wood Wanderer » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:59 pm

When I first saw this I immediately thought Rickenella fibula, but on closer inspection it just does not seem to fit, the gills show little sign of being decurrent and are very distant. Have looked at Lichenomphalia but that seems wrong as well.

This was growing on or in close association with moss, small cap at around 4mm.

Unable to obtain a spore print so no help there, can anyone suggest a genus ?

Many thanks

John
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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by adampembs » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:02 pm

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EDIT please ignore the Mollisia that I seem unable to remove ....
Can't help with ID, but do you realise you don't have to click on the "place inline" button (circled in image attached) which has NO bearing on whether the images are displayed. It only causes them to be displayed in a long scrolling list that has the advantage of allowing you to put comments between each photo, which you haven't done anyway, so serves no purpose. If you want to delete the Mollisia image, you need to delete the attachment in the attachments box below. (also circled in the image attached) - if you avoid using the "place inline" button, your images will be displayed in a grid which avoids the need for scrolling. So, if you edit your post, and down down to attachments and delete the attachment DSC_0014.JPG, the Mollisia will disappear. If you then delete the inline attachment bbcodes, eg "[ attachment=0]del.jpg[/attachment ]" - you'll get a nice grid.

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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by Chris Yeates » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:58 am

This is indeed a strange one . . . without the gill attachment conundrum this would point to Rickenella fibula - look at the caulocystidia on the upper part of the stipes . . .
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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by Wood Wanderer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:10 pm

Can't help with ID, but do you realise you don't have to click on the "place inline" button (circled in image attached) which has NO bearing on whether the images are displayed. It only causes them to be displayed in a long scrolling list that has the advantage of allowing you to put comments between each photo, which you haven't done anyway, so serves no purpose. If you want to delete the Mollisia image, you need to delete the attachment in the attachments box below. (also circled in the image attached) - if you avoid using the "place inline" button, your images will be displayed in a grid which avoids the need for scrolling. So, if you edit your post, and down down to attachments and delete the attachment DSC_0014.JPG, the Mollisia will disappear. If you then delete the inline attachment bbcodes, eg "[ attachment=0]del.jpg[/attachment ]" - you'll get a nice grid.

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Thanks Adam, have now removed the errant Mollisia and yes I did not realise there was a better way to display images in grid format.

As you say it does look a lot neater

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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by Wood Wanderer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:46 pm

Chris Yeates wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:58 am
This is indeed a strange one . . . without the gill attachment conundrum this would point to Rickenella fibula - look at the caulocystidia on the upper part of the stipes . . .


Thanks Chris

So I was not confused without reason, presumably the "incorrect" gill attachment is just an anomaly and my first instinct was right. Getting to an ID is hard enough without key macro features going AWOL .... :?

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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by Chris Yeates » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:06 pm

The more I look at this the less convinced am I about this being R. fibula. Gill attachment is wrong and the gills are too few in number. Perhaps a Galerina?
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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by Chris Johnson » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:05 am

The only Galerina I can think of with such distant gills is Galerina calyptrata. It has a fleshy umbo and obvious caulocystidia. I doubt you will get any further without microscopy though.
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Re: Moss Fungus ...

Post by Wood Wanderer » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:34 pm

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The only Galerina I can think of with such distant gills is Galerina calyptrata. It has a fleshy umbo and obvious caulocystidia. I doubt you will get any further without microscopy though.
http://outerhebridesfungi.co.uk/species.php?id=75

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Thanks for your thoughts Chris, it does have a number of the same macro features as my specimen, not one I have ever heard of but as you say no way of being in the least bit certain.

One I will look out for in future.

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John

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