Coleosporium tussilaginis on Red Bartsia?

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JennyS
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Coleosporium tussilaginis on Red Bartsia?

Post by JennyS » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:02 pm

Came across a couple of rusts when looking for moth larvae on chalk grassland, Dorset - the first is on Red Bartsia, Odontites vernus. Not collected but is it Coleosporium tussilaginis?
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Re: Coleosporium tussilaginis on Red Bartsia?

Post by Chris Yeates » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:57 pm

Yes Jenny, that's it
I always think it's strange that this rust has such a wide host range - across a number of plant families, never mind species, given how host-restricted most rusts are. Odontites is, in my experience, the commonest host among the hemisparasites formerly included in Scrophulariaceae on which it occurs - now Orobanchaceae . . .

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Re: Coleosporium tussilaginis on Red Bartsia?

Post by Paul Cannon » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:57 am

You may be interested to learn that the Continentals (or some of them at least, in the form of Klenke & Scholler's book Plflanzenparasitische Kleinpilze 2015) separate Coleosporium tussilaginis into a series of host-related species - and the one on Scrophulariaceae s. lat. is considered to be Coleosporium euphrasiae. If you consider that a biological species concept is appropriate for rusts, then this would seem logical. That doesn't mean necessarily that all Coleosporium on Scrophulariaceae/Orobanchaceae are referable to the same species...
If this approach is accepted throughout the rusts, the number of UK species will be substantially increased, which may or may not be a good thing.

In general I would always do a microscope preparation for rusts in addition to ID via symptoms - the latter approach is almost always right but you do get the odd surprise - and the spores are so beautiful.

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