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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Flaxton » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:55 pm

John
There are small differences in the hairs but I don't think you would pick them up from a photo. A view of the spores would be essential.
Did you collect a sample?
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Wood Wanderer » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:42 pm

Flaxton wrote:John
There are small differences in the hairs but I don't think you would pick them up from a photo. A view of the spores would be essential.
Did you collect a sample?
Mal
Hi Mal

Thanks for your thoughts, I have now looked properly at the Melastiza key earlier in the thread and your previous comment, no simple way to be certain then :?

Yes I do have a sample, further photo attached ..
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Flaxton » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:27 pm

Not without sending me a sample.
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Wood Wanderer » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:31 pm

Flaxton wrote:Not without sending me a sample.
Mal
Hi Mal

Thanks for the offer, can you PM me your address again, seem to have mislaid it.

My previous efforts at drying before posting were not great :roll: , can you advise as to "correct process" etc

Many thanks

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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Flaxton » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:57 pm

John
Sample arrived ok but a bit squashed. The dark, septate and rounded external hairs were easy to see and photograph
melastiza hairs.jpg
but I am struggling to find mature spores. The ones I have found are certainly close to M cornubiensis but I would like to try and get some to maturity to be sure. I will update if they have survived well enough to produce mature spores over the next day or so.
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Wood Wanderer » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:41 am

Flaxton wrote:John
Sample arrived ok but a bit squashed. The dark, septate and rounded external hairs were easy to see and photograph
melastiza hairs.jpg
but I am struggling to find mature spores. The ones I have found are certainly close to M cornubiensis but I would like to try and get some to maturity to be sure. I will update if they have survived well enough to produce mature spores over the next day or so.
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Many thanks for your efforts Mal, can you just clarify for the benefit of non microscope people (like me .. :? ) are the finger like jointed protrusions the hairs on the edge of my sample ? I am assuming so but having never looked through a microscope I know very little of what to expect.

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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Flaxton » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:45 pm

Hi John
Yes thats exactly what they are. Hairs can be rounded or pointed, coloured or hyaline, thick or thin walled and with or without septa (with little dividing wall). Each of these elements can be very important in coming to an id.
This one shows the thick walled, pointed and septate hairs of a Trichobolus unlike the thin walled rounded but also septate hairs of your Melastiza.
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Wood Wanderer » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:50 pm

Many thanks Mal

The comparison with the pointed, septate hairs of a Tricholobus makes it quite clear, even to a micro virgin like me ... :lol:

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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Leif » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:13 am

Flaxton wrote:Sorry Lief
We certainly agree it is a Melastiza but I was just trying to show it should be based on the dark edge and shape than the shape of the spores as both species can have pointed ends.
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I'm afraid you've lost me. I saw no reason for your put down.
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Flaxton » Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:14 pm

John
A few mature spores at last.
IS_32a.jpg
IS_33a.jpg
Perfect for Melastiza cornubiensis.
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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Wood Wanderer » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:17 pm

Flaxton wrote:John
A few mature spores at last.
IS_32a.jpg
IS_33a.jpg
Perfect for Melastiza cornubiensis.
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Very many thanks for your help Mal

Great to have a definite ID for once, one of these days I might seriously think about getting a microscope ... :roll: not that I would have a clue how to use mind.

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Re: Fungi in the Landscape

Post by Flaxton » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:12 pm

Adam
It might be worth splitting the last half of this thread as it is all about the Melastiza rather than "Fungi in the Landscape"
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