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Forage or Foray? The difference explained

Post by adampembs » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:28 am

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Orange birch boletus (Leccinum versipelle) in lovely ancient woodland. A great foraging day in late September...

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Hi Marc, just a note that we dont encourage foraging on this site. Unlike, say blackberries or nettles, fungi very rarely appear in such numbers where foraging doesn't has an impact. In most cases, you have to take most or all of what you find, which is removing its ability to spread further.
I would make a closer parallel with picking orchids for a flower vase. In fact, sometimes you see much more abundance of orchids. Perhaps you meant "foraying"?
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Post by marc t » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:07 pm

Adam - What a strange response! Foray / forage are pretty interchangeable words. However, if you're suggesting picking orchids, that's very ill-advised - many are extremely rare some are protected. I'm sure there are plenty of contributors on this forum who enjoy collecting wild mushrooms to eat but I can move to another forum if this is unacceptable..?

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Post by adampembs » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:33 am

Hi Marc, no foray and forage mean different things entirely as you can see in any dictionary.

You are welcome to take part in our forum, however we have a rule against identifying fungi for the purposes of eating.
The same rule applies to fungi as to orchids. Few of the prize edible fungi are very common and many are considerably rarer than say Bee Orchids or Early purple. We generally have a culture of discussing fungi for conservation and scientific purposes. If you can accept this culture, we would welcome your participation.
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Post by Lancashire Lad » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:11 am

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. . . . Foray / forage are pretty interchangeable words . . . .
Whilst it might be asserted that (as a verb) the word “foray” has a definition that is somewhat vague, i.e.: - “a short visit, especially with a known purpose”, the word “forage” has an altogether more specific definition, i.e.: - “to go from place to place searching for things that you can eat or use”.
I would readily agree that the two words are frequently misconstrued by those unfamiliar with their usage, but amongst those who have any basic mycological knowledge, it would be perfectly clear that “foraying” specifically means going out looking for fungi for recording or other mycological purposes, whereas “foraging” specifically means going out looking for fungi to eat.
You will never see a local/regional fungus group issuing a “forage” list to its members. :oops: ;)

As Adam clarifies above, UK Fungi is primarily a conservation oriented forum, and anyone who respects that ethos whilst using the forum is more than welcome to participate.

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Post by marc t » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:51 pm

Adam & Mike - I think this probably isn't the right forum for me and it's time to move on. I think I'll give this fungi foray site a go http://www.fungiforays.co.uk/. All the best Marc

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Post by Lancashire Lad » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:14 pm

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Adam & Mike - I think this probably isn't the right forum for me and it's time to move on. I think I'll give this fungi foray site a go http://www.fungiforays.co.uk/. All the best Marc
That is, of course, your prerogative. - I wish you well.
The site to which you link is a commercial enterprise, created to promote business for the site owner's fungi foraging "events".
It has no free to use forum participation, so no facility to actually learn anything about fungi other than by attending one of those foraging events and paying for the privilege.

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Post by adampembs » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:14 am

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Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:51 pm
Adam & Mike - I think this probably isn't the right forum for me and it's time to move on. I think I'll give this fungi foray site a go http://www.fungiforays.co.uk/. All the best Marc
I see no forum there...

A little bit of picking fungi for eating is sustainable, the problem is the foraging craze, and the commercial foraging stripping woodlands bare. I wont be a hypocrite here; what got me interested was foraging (10 years ago) but now I very rarely indulge as I now know they are not so common as blackberries or nettles.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... gi-pickers
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Post by Chris Yeates » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:33 am

adampembs wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:14 am
marc t wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:51 pm
Adam & Mike - I think this probably isn't the right forum for me and it's time to move on. I think I'll give this fungi foray site a go http://www.fungiforays.co.uk/. All the best Marc
I see no forum there...
Interesting that they use the word "Foray" in their name - I wonder why; perhaps to give them a bit of cred and distance themselves from the increasingly suspect "forage". But they do offer the chance to visit the Elan Valley with"oak woods full of pied flycatchers and redstarts" - full, wow! - hope they don't bump into each other :shock:
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Post by Chris Johnson » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:24 am

Perhaps this thread need moving, it's detracting from its original purpose.

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Post by adampembs » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:08 am

Chris Johnson wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:24 am
Perhaps this thread need moving, it's detracting from its original purpose.

Chris
Agreed and done!
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Re: Forage or Foray? The difference explained

Post by Lancashire Lad » Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:59 pm

Hi all,

I've amended the title on each of the individual posts above to reflect the moved thread's name, which now shows correctly.

Though separate, the thread was still showing in the forum index under a title of "Fungus of the day" - (Having two threads with that title might have caused some confusion).

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